Lady Victoria Hervey joined Good Morning Britain presenters Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid on ITV this morning. During the conversation she spoke about the interactions she had with Jeffrey Epstein, her friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell and the time she briefly dated Prince Andrew.
Morgan was keen to understand the relationship she had with the Duke of York and remarked: “You dated Prince Andrew briefly, tell us about that.”
“It was not really [dating], we had a couple of dinners together,” Hervey replied. “And that was around the same time, I think it was around 1999, 2000.”
“And of course that was just before he is alleged to have met this girl Virginia, when you watch the Prince Andrew interview, what do you make of it?” the presenter continued.
“I mean, I watched it and thought, first of all there is no way if he is guilty, that he would go onto television and do an interview like there – there’s no way!” Hervey remarked.
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“I think the public already made their decision a long time ago and thought he was guilty, so I think him going on television and he didn’t really give the public what they wanted in respect to actually having any remorse about these girls, that’s why there’s been a backlash.
“I actually think he didn’t do, because there’s no way he would go on television,” she concluded.
“But what he did do, which is arguable and I think is his achilles heel in this story, is after Epstein had been convicted of peadophilia, of soliciting a 14-year-old girl for sex, after that had happened, Prince Andrew went to his home in New York, for four days, is seen partying, lots of girls coming and going, seen walking around Central Park having a good time, with a convicted peadophile,” Morgan commented.
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“And his explanation was it was convenient – as if there aren’t enough five star hotels in New York!”
“I don’t know, I think that was obviously a huge mistake on his part,” Hervey replied.
After discussing Ghislaine Maxwell and her possible whereabouts, conversation turned to Epstein’s death.
“When you discovered, mainly before he died, then afterwards, when all these women came out, all telling a similar story of being underage, abuse, targeting, trafficking and so on. What did you feel about what had emerged?” Morgan pressed.
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“I was completely shocked, I was so shocked because I had no idea, I really had no idea. The more I was reading about it the more I was like ‘wow, I was in one of these apartments,’” Hervey remarked. “I kind of saw all of it, but I saw it but didn’t see it.”
“What do you mean ‘you saw it but didn’t see it?’” Reid probed.
“Well, I was there, I was at the dinners, I saw things but I didn’t see the truth, I had no idea what was really going on,” Hervey explained.
“But I think the word sex trafficking, that’s a very strong word and I don’t think that is the correct word to use for this. You know, when you think of sex trafficking you think of a 12-year-old who has been kidnapped, chained, caged, this is not the same thing.”
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“Hang on, hang on,” Morgan was heard interrupting.
Reid took over and said: “You might not think it’s the same thing, but unfortunately that’s how it is.”
“Epstein was convicted for procuring a 14-year-old for sex – that’s trafficking,” Morgan clarified. “When they’re underage it’s trafficking and literally it was described as railway station – in and out all the time and many of them were underaged.”
Prince Andrew strongly denies all claims he had sex with Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre (nee Roberts) and the prince has also denied any wrongdoing at all.
Good Morning Britain airs weekday mornings at 6am on ITV.
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